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The Good Kind of Jansenism

My friend and editor Gary Jansen has a new book out, Exercising Your Soul: Fifteen Minutes a Day to a Spiritual Life. I love the book. Gary has an endearing, attention-deficit quality that lets him deliver big lessons not only painlessly, but humorously. He goes deep, and takes us readers deep, without even a whiff of pious unction. For Jansen, a tattooed foot on the subway is the start of a mystical flight. By the end of the story, we know that these everyday distractions should be graces for us as well.

Kris McGregor talked with Gary about the book and podcasted the conversation. So we get to be the proverbial fly on the wall.